Gun Shops, Politicians and Symbolism

Liberal Party politicians in NSW seem to have embraced the anti-gun cause with renewed enthusiasm. That’s interesting, considering they made some effort to court the shooters vote prior to the March 2007 election.

Planning Minister Frank Sartor has implied Labor might not be far behind them, offering to change planning rules to prevent gun shops from being established near schools. But Sartor is a stirrer and motor mouth, so who knows what his real views are.

Shooters Party MLC Robert Brown has at last spoken to the media about something controversial, but failed to cover himself with glory. The Daily Telegraph reported he “laughed” when told about parent concerns. Would the old fox John Tingle have handled it better?

The Member for SSAA, Roy Smith, has not been heard.

The issue is, of course, symbolic nonsense. If gun shops are dangerous near schools, armed police must be as well. A gun is a gun and if proximity is the source of the concerns, it makes no difference who has it.

The real issue is not whether the local Council reverses its decision, Sartor calls it in, or even Brown’s handling of the media. It is how the major parties view it in symbolic terms. Will they see more political capital in opposing gun shops, supporting them, or ducking the issue? And how should shooters respond to that?

Brown and Smith have a declared policy of voting with the Government on most issues. Will that change in light of this episode? How does it maximise their ability to change the balance of political capital. Will they run a Shooters Party candidate in 2011 against the Liberal MPs who are sounding off?

This is the sort of symbolic issue that sorts out politicians. It’s watch and wait.

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8 Responses to Gun Shops, Politicians and Symbolism

  1. TopGun says:

    Maybe every shooter should just join the Labor and Liberal parties, as well as TSP of course. That might change the internal attittude of the parties.

  2. Bill says:

    Maybe the Shooters Party should stand against some of these Liberal and Labour bastards as well. Make it personal to them.

  3. Pig Hunter says:

    Pigs, the shooters party has not got what it takes to stand up to the big boys they have survived so far on promises and nothing has come of it, so from here on we are looking at those who might do something rather than than those who go on a taxpayer funded holiday like the members of the shooters party

  4. TopGun says:

    The electoral area of Davidson where this MP comes from is a blue ribbon Liberal area. Any person who gets the Liberal preselection for this area cannot be defeated by a shooters party person or Labor or anyone else for that matter, short of a local independant regarded as a demigod.

    Looks to me like the poster operating under the name of Pig Hunter has forgotten who he is responding to with his post. I guess that can happen when you are generating spurious opinions under multiple aliases.

  5. Pig Hunter says:

    Aliases?????????????? My,my and I suppose your middle name is “cap” or maybe you are one of the leaders of the TSP, The Sheep Party, you lead and everyone else must follow.

  6. Bill says:

    “The electoral area of Davidson where this MP comes from is a blue ribbon Liberal area. Any person who gets the Liberal preselection for this area cannot be defeated by a shooters party person or Labor or anyone else for that matter, short of a local independant regarded as a demigod.”

    You don’t understnd the preference system. If the blue ribbon Liberal doesn’t quite get an absolute majority the preferences will decide who wins. Suppose the SP candidate steals some primary votes away from the Liberal bloke and forces him to go to preferences. Even if the SP’s preferences go to the Libs and get him elected, the Lib knows whose preferences it was. Next time, you tell him, you’ll tell everyone to give their preferences to Labour if he stuffs around with gun issues.

    Topgun, if the Greens can screw the bastards why can’t the SP? Are they smarter?

  7. TopGun says:

    Thanks for that observation Bill, but a Davidson Liberal candidate doesn’t need any preferences, and the local police claimed that there were only 500 licensed firearm owners in the area. So preferences don’t matter at all there.

    Preferences can be important, but only where they can be directed by a party (which is not possible in NSW) and where they are in significant numbers (a reasonable number of voters must fill in some boxes) which won’t happen in Davidson.

    Also Bill, the Greens haven’t been able to succeed in the lower house with preferences. They had a strong vote in Marrickville and Balmain but got no Lib help. Which is why they got no lower house seats.

  8. Belle Star says:

    Quiet around here boys, what happened? no more brown eye comments, what a pity as I understand he was after me thinking I was someone else, I was hoping he would catch me as I love little round fat men

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